onsdag 4. juni 2025

Meningsmåling i Israel: 82% vil ha etnisk rensing - og Omer Bartov om folkemord 13. august 2024

 Kommentar nr 14 c av CV i Haaretz til denne artikkel 3. juni 2025

"A Grim Poll Showed Most Jewish Israelis Support Expelling Gazans. It's Brutal - and It's True"

Det gjelder meningsmålingen i Israel at 82% av de spurte ønsker palestinerne bort og vekk ... etnisk renset, publisert 28. mai 2025:

"Yes to Transfer: 82% of Jewish Israelis Back Expelling Gazans"

 

Kommentar av CV til artikkelen av 3. juni:

CV

23:42
Why
"There is no faith that the Arabs in Gaza will ever want peace"
It's not a problem of faith. It's a problem of guilt. I think Israelis, deep down, know that there is no coming back to normal with regard to gaza.
What they did is irredeemable. And that pushes a lot to support going all the way, because
"After what we did to them, we can only imagine what they would do to us if we don't destroy them. We simply have no choice."
Which is genocide 101.
Omer Bartov used this example to explain why he changed his mind and finally accepted that Israelis were committing a genocide, complete with explicit intent, in Gaza.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov?CMP=share_btn_url
It was 10 months ago, and nothing got better since. 
 
 
Skudeneshavn   4. juni 2025

Jan Marton Jensen 
 
 
Kilde:
 
 
13. august 2024 

 

Jay Michaelson: Folkemord i Gaza

Innlegg i "Forward" 28. mai 2025 av Jay Michaelson, se Kilde.
Han konkluderer at IDfs krigføring nå er folkemord iht Folkemordkonvensjonen.


We must face reality — the Gaza war is now a war of annihilation

Canceling Israel’s critics won’t change the reality of what is unfolding in Gaza

Det er spesielt uttalelsene til Netanyahu og Smotrich som fremheves.
Og opplegget med matutdeling ...

Skudeneshavn   4. juni 2025

Jan Marton Jensen

tirsdag 3. juni 2025

Aftenposten: Israel benekter drap i Gaza på gazafolk i kø for nødhjelp - Mine kommentarer om avisdekningen

 Artikkel i Aftenposten om forhold i Gaza, se Kilde

 

Min kommentar 1:

Jan Marton Jensen
for noen sekunder siden

Fra artikkelen:

"Søndag ble 40 mennesker drept da ble ble skutt da de forsøkte å få tak i

nødhjelp, ifølge sykehuskilder. Israel avviser at de sto bak."

..................

Kommentar:

"Israel avviser at de sto bak".

Så enkelt kan drap på 40 palestinere formidles.

Og bortforklares.

Journalistikken DØR ved slike oppslag.

Her må Israel og IDF utfordres på det skarpeste.

Og Aftenposten må ta denne jobben markant og tydelig.

En ansvarlig redaksjon vet hva den må gjøre.


Min kommentar 2: 

Jan Marton Jensen
svarte Espen Andre Jørgensen 
for noen sekunder siden

Når er det drept flere titalls palestinere i nødhjelp-kø i Gaza ... i 3 - TRE DAGER PÅ RAD.

Dette er kriminelt og må skrives om, slik israelsk avis Haaretz gjør:

"At least 27 Palestinians were killed and nearly 200 injured earlier on Tuesday when Israeli forces opened fire near one of the distribution points in the south of the territory.

Aftenposten må finne sin redaksjonelle linje og vise vei mht dekning og analyser og konklusjoner.


Skudeneshavn  3. juni 2025

Jan Marton Jensen


Kilde:
1. juni 2025
https://www.aftenposten.no/verden/i/4Bk3vV/hun-var-gazas-yngste-influenser-saa-ble-det-plutselig-stille


søndag 1. juni 2025

"Hva vi gjorde og hvorfor" - En Gaza-historie av Raoul Wootliff

 Innlegg i israelsk avis av Raoul Wootliff

 

"What we did, and why"

"We were told victory was, finally, just around the corner. We were told total victory meant total destruction."

"They came for us. In our beds, in our homes. They murdered us, raped us, took us hostage.

So we vowed we would destroy Gaza and turn it into nothing but “cities of ruin.” October 7 had changed everything, and we had to make sure it could never happen again.

Then we struck them with awesome force, Iron Swords drawn with relentless bombing campaigns across Gaza. A massive ground invasion. Hamas had to be destroyed, and our hostages had to be brought home.

Then we cut off electricity, fuel, water, and food. We were told Hamas controlled the infrastructure, and pressure was our only leverage to secure the release of our hostages.

Then we told over a million people to flee their homes. We were told we needed to protect them from the fighting with Hamas, and we needed freedom to operate safely.

Then we hit convoys of families evacuating on roads we told them to take. We were told Hamas moves with civilians, and it was impossible to know who was transporting arms.

Then we bombed entire apartment blocks in Gaza City, and then in Khan Younis, and then in Beit Hanoun. We were told Hamas hid in residential buildings, and civilians were warned to leave.

Then we hit civilians in Jabalia, and in Nuseirat, and in Zeitoun. We were told high-value targets were nearby, and Hamas’ use of human shields forced us to make hard choices to protect Israeli lives.

Then we struck homes where entire families were sheltering. We were told the homes were next to tunnels, and we were targeting Hamas terror infrastructure.

Then we dropped bombs on tent camps in Rafah where we had told the displaced to go. We were told a Hamas commander was there, and our intelligence guided the strike to minimize casualties.

Then we said the massive total death toll was exaggerated. The numbers came from Hamas, and we were told they lie to make us look bad.

Then we bombed and raided Al-Shifa Hospital and turned it into rubble. We were told a Hamas command center was below, and they were the ones responsible for turning hospitals into battlegrounds.

Then we bombed the Al-Fakhoura school sheltering children. We were told terrorists were launching rockets nearby, and the building was being used as a shield.

Then we destroyed Gaza’s Islamic University and every other university. We were told they were training Hamas engineers and teaching terrorism to the next generation.

Then, we killed aid workers from World Central Kitchen, and hundreds more from other aid organizations. We were told it was a mistake, and in war, tragic mistakes happen.

Then we shot and buried 14 Red Crescent medics along with their vehicles. We were told ambulances have been used to smuggle terrorists, and we promised to investigate.

Then we blocked entry of all food and aid into Gaza. We were told Hamas was stealing the food and using it to retain control over the people of Gaza, and we needed a way to pressure them harder to release our hostages.

Then we dismissed the reports of potential famine. Gaza’s Health Ministry is run by Hamas, and we were told nothing they say can be trusted.

Then we rode back in on Gideon’s Chariots to finish the job. We were told victory was, finally, just around the corner.

So we flattened neighborhood after neighborhood after neighborhood, and whatever was left of the rest. Because we were told total victory meant total destruction.

And then, there was nothing left to destroy. Nothing but cities of ruin. And I believed every justification we were told, until there were none left."

 

Skudeneshavn 1. juni 2015

Jan Marton jensen 

Kilde:
27. mai 2025
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/what-we-did-and-why/#comments-1305424

 

Hanne Røislien Eggen: "Er språket blitt ett av krigens ofre?"

 Sterkt innlegg av Hanne Røislien Eggen 27. mai 2025 i Aftenposten:


"Er språket blitt ett av krigens ofre?"

Hva er hensikten med språklige forpliktelser som «aldri mer» når de brukes om fortiden, men ikke om nåtiden?

Et personlig og ærlig innlegg om vår avmakt ....

Alvorlige påstander om IDF-støttede tyverigjenger i Gaza

Alvorlige påstander om stjeling av mat og forsyninger i Gaza:

28. mai 2025:

"Hunger games: How Israel manufactured a looting crisis in Gaza to cover up famine"

" Israel's engineered 'Hamas looting crisis' has long served as an excuse to cover up its deliberate weaponisation of starvation against Gaza's entire population"

 

26. november 2024

"How Israel is aiding armed gangs in Gaza to sow societal collapse"

Israel is aiding criminal gangs in Rafah, some of who are affiliated with the Islamic State (IS), to loot humanitarian aid under military protection, sources in Gaza, including civil society leaders, police officials, and a UN official, have told The New Arab.

While refusing to intervene against these armed criminals, Israeli forces are opening fire against local policemen attempting to prevent the looting.

 

Skudeneshavn  1. juni 2025

Jan Marton Jensen 


Kilde:
28. mai 2025
https://www.newarab.com/analysis/gaza-israel-manufactured-looting-crisis-cover-famine 

26. mai 2025
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-led-groups-execute-four-looting-aid-trucks-amid-some-gaza-dissent-2025-05-26/ 

4. mai 2025
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-executes-looters-gaza-food-crisis-worsens-under-israeli-blockade-2025-05-04/ 

26. november 2024
https://www.newarab.com/analysis/how-israel-aiding-gangs-gaza-sow-societal-collapse 

Hellestveit i Aftenposten: - Trolig folkemord i Gaza - Mine kommentarer

 Hellestveit i Aftenposten 31. mai:

"Hellestveit: Israels krigføring i Gaza kan trolig karakteriseres som folkemord"


Min kommentar 1

Jan Marton Jensen
for en time siden

Eksperter har et SPESIELT ansvar.

Det gjelder ekstra for Hellestveit, som medlem av et ETIKK-råd.

Lørdag 31. mai klokka 11 kommer hun på banen:

"KAN TROLIG" ... er vurderingen.

Dette er for lite og for sent.

Og viser at Etikkrådet legger mest vekt på JUSS og mindre på ETIKK.

Etterpåklokskap er ikke etikk.

Etikk er proaktiv.

Nå må norske politikere ta sitt ansvar alvorlig.

 

Min kommentar 2:

Jan Marton Jensen
svarte Jan Marton Jensen 
for 23 minutter siden

Professor Terje Einarsen sitt innlegg i Aftenposten den 21. april 2025 har tittelen:

"Folkemordet på palestinerne"

https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikk/i/LMx01Q/aa-bruke-betegnelsen-folkemord-om-det-israel-gjoer-er-paa-sin-plass

Einarsen sitt innlegg er faglig sterkere enn Hellestveits.

Han burde overta plassen i Etikkrådet.

Det er en oppgave for Brandtzæg.

 

Min kommentar 3:

Jan Marton Jensen
for noen sekunder siden

Israel har organisert en ny "hjelpeorganisasjon" for utdeling av nødhjelp:

"Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF)".

Dette er amerikanske leiesoldater.

Søndag morgen søkte sultne Gazafolk seg til GHF sin utdelings-stasjon i Rafah.

Da ble de møtt av IDF. Over 30 ble drept:

"Palestinians gunned down while trying to reach food aid site in Gaza, hospital says"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/01/palestinians-gunned-down-while-trying-to-reach-food-aid-site-in-gaza-hospital-says

Diskuterer Etikkrådet slike saker?

Eller er drap på sultne mennesker i oppmøte for nødhjelp en etisk ikke-sak?

 

 

Skudeneshavn  1. juni 2025

Jan Marton Jensen 

 

 

Kilde:
31. mai 2025
https://www.aftenposten.no/verden/i/ny61bo/hellestveit-israels-krigfoering-i-gaza-kan-trolig-karakteriseres-som-folkemord