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fredag 23. desember 2022

Netanyahu misleder om historie - Hva vil han oppnå?

 I et intervju i USA har Netanyahu lagt ut om sentrale deler av historien i området som er FEIL:

"Netanyahu Told Jordan Peterson Arabs Expelled Jews From the Land of Israel – Historians Say He Is Distorting Facts"
(Haaretz 23. desember 2022)

Israelske historikere må i artikkelen korrigere det meste Netanyahu har sagt.

Rimeligvis vet Netanyahu bedre:
Men han må ha en overordnet agenda
Der det skal forsvares det dagens muslimer skal utsettes for.

Skudeneshavn  23. desember 2022
Jan Marton Jensen


På Twitter:
30. desember 2022
https://twitter.com/janmarton/status/1608755522358087680

 

Kilde:
23. desember 2022
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-12-23/ty-article/.premium/netanyahu-claimed-arabs-expelled-jews-from-the-land-of-israel-historians-say-he-is-wrong/00000185-3f01-d723-a3d5-7f29f5f90000

 

HELE innlegget 23. desember 2022 i Haaretz:

Netanyahu Told Jordan Peterson Arabs Expelled Jews From the Land of Israel – Historians Say He Is Distorting Facts

In 2015 Netanyahu corrected himself after falsely claiming Hitler decided to exterminate the Jews only after he met with the former mufti Hajj Amin al-Husseini during World War II

Prime Minister-designate Netanyahu speaking with Jordan Peterson.
Prime Minister-designate Netanyahu speaking with Jordan Peterson.Credit: Screenshot from Jordan Peterson's Youtube page

Benjamin Netanyahu said earlier this month in an interview with Jordan Peterson in Canada that the Arabs dispossessed and kicked out the Jews from the Land of Israel after they conquered the area in the seventh century C.E. 

A number of historians Haaretz spoke with denied these claims and said Netanyahu's claims are 'amusing', and they misrepresent and distort history.

In an interview on Peterson’s podcast conducted two weeks ago, Netanyahu spoke about his version of the history of the Jews in the Land of Israel.

"For the first two millennia of their 3,500-year history, the Jewish people have lived in the Land of Israel, fought off conquerors, sometimes were conquered but stayed on their land,” said Netanyahu. “The loss of our land actually occurred when the Arab conquest took place in the seventh century.”

The Arabs did something that no other conqueror had done – “they actually started taking land from Jewish farmers. They brought in military colonists that took over the land and gradually over the next two centuries the Jews became a minority in our land. So it is under the Arab conquerors the Jews lost their homeland," said Netanyahu. "The Arabs were the colonialists and the Jews were the dispossessed natives," he added.

The Dome of the Rock and Jerusalem's Old City December 4, 2017
The Dome of the Rock and Jerusalem's Old City December 4, 2017Credit: RONEN ZVULUN/REUTERS

Throughout the interview, Netanyahu repeated the narrative that the Arabs expelled the Jews from their historic homeland, and used a number of different words to describe it, including: expelled, dispossessed, kicked out, and threw out.

Historian Dr. Milka Levy-Rubin of the Schechter Institute of Jewish Studies, who specializes in the early Islamic period in Israel, said Netanyahu’s statements are “a mistaken and distorted picture” of history. Prof. Yehoshua Frenkel of the department of Middle Eastern history at the university of Haifa said: “His words are amusing, like a time capsule from before World War I that was forgotten on the shelf.”

Netanyahu made a number of mistakes during the interview: First, he ignored that the Jews had been exiled and suffered from foreign invasions a number of times throughout history before the Islamic conquest. “As for earlier periods, of course during the First Temple period the 10 tribes were exiled from the land, and let us not forget the Babylonian exile, too,” said Levy-Rubin.

Muslim worshippers and Israeli police clashes at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, February 24, 2012.
Muslim worshippers and Israeli police clashes at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, February 24, 2012. Credit: Reuters

 

“As for the Second Temple period and the Bar Kokhba revolt – the Romans ‘only’ destroyed the temple, burnt down Jerusalem and emptied the entire land of Judea of its Jewish residents. Moreover – they imposed a sweeping ban on Jews entering Jerusalem, a ban that was left standing until the end of the Byzantine period,” added Levy-Rubin. 

She also completely rejected Netanyahu’s claims about the Islamic conquest of the land of Israel: “I am not familiar with any sources showing the exiling of Jews or others from the land during the Arab conquest or of any testimonies of such an expulsion. There is no archaeological evidence that points to destruction or devastation, [in fact] the opposite.”

Frenkel reinforced what Levy-Rubin said and explained that the victory of the Arab tribes over the Byzantines and the growth of Islam did not cause devastation. Not a single archaeological site has signs of destruction and burning, but in fact many testimonies from Eilat to the Golan Heights show continuity, he said.

“At the time, the Muslim interest was to continue and conquer and levy taxes from the local residents. At the first stage of the conquest the Muslim conquerors already preferred generous capitulation and surrender offers over fighting,” added Levy-Rubin.

Not only did the Arabs not expel the Jewish residents, but Frenkel says “the Muslims are the ones who allowed the Jews to return and live in Jerusalem, and the Jews were even [allowed to participate] in the building of the Dome of the Rock, and it seems that in the could also participate in the ritual and service there in the early stages, and they had great influence on the Muslims during the period of the conquest and for decades afterward,” said Frenkel.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, in a meeting with Hitler in 1941.
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, in a meeting with Hitler in 1941.

Because of the agreements with the occupiers, the residents could remain in place and continue to run their lives as they had until then, "including their religious rituals – without any limitations", said Levy-Rubin. At the same time, these agreements allowed those who wanted to leave to do so along with their property. Only in later periods, from the eighth century and on, were various regulations enforced gradually, which restricted the lives of the non-Muslim population in the public sphere.

Netanyahu also said the Arabs kept the land barren and empty, a “wasteland,” and built just a single new city – Ramle. Levy-Rubin said this claim is distorted too.

The Umayyad Caliphate (from 661 to 750 C.E.) invested a lot in the land of Israel. “First and foremost in Jerusalem – we all know the mosques on the Temple Mount, but also in a lot more places they invested in development, including in Tiberias, the Hebron Hills region, the Negev, and of the course the coastal strip where the Muslims encouraged settlement.”

Netanyahu quoted famous travelers to the Holy Land during the podcast, none less than Mark Twain, who described the land as “a vast wasteland” and “barren” before the Jews returned.

Mark Twain's visitors pass to Palestine issued by the Ottomans.
Mark Twain's visitors pass to Palestine issued by the Ottomans.Credit: Shapell Manuscript Foundation

“The fact that the land [of Israel] in general was settled sparsely does not prove anything. There was a continuity of Muslim settlement since the conquest,” said Levy-Rubin. In the interview, Netanyahu attacked the Palestinians for distorting and misrepresenting history, and said it's quite amazing that none of the facts he put forward in his books “has ever been challenged… I make an effort to be very rigorous about the facts,” he said. 

Frenkel added that Netanyahu lectures without getting into or spending too much time on complex facts, but reality is much more complex and not one-dimensional.

In 2015, Netanyahu also distorted other periods of Jewish history, when he said Hitler decided to exterminate the Jews only after he met with the former mufti Hajj Amin al-Husseini during World War II. After drawing criticism, Netanyahu corrected himself.

Earlier this month, Netanyahu said former U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt said “over my dead body” when he was asked why he would not bomb Auschwitz during the Holocaust. In this case too, historians said he was distorting reality and proposing an alternative reality.

 

søndag 8. desember 2019

Facebook misbrukt til lønnsomt muslimhat

En mann har sittet i Tel Aviv, Israel.
Der har har han i flere år produsert høyre-ekstremt muslimhat.
For å tjene penger på Facebook-løsningen for "lik og del".
Han har fått 14,3 milllioner likes.
Og spredt sitt hat ved å lure seg inn  som med-administrator for 21 høyre-ekstreme Facebook nettsteder verden rundt.
Det er spredt muslimhat  i USA, Australia, Canada mm
Falske nyheter om flere politikere er spredt og man er ført videre til nettsteder FULL av falske nyheter.
Dette har som nevnt foregått nå i flere år.
Og Facebook har ikke oppdaget noe som helst.
Det er først da et overvåkingsprosjekt i regi av The Guardian og universitetet i Queensland i Australia gjør Facebook oppmerksom på hva som skjer  at Facebook reagerer: 

"Monetising hate: covert enterprise co-opts far-right Facebook pages to churn out anti-Islamic posts
Exclusive: Israel-based group has gained access to at least 21 pages, using them to launch coordinated false stories to their 1 million followers around the world
The revelations show Facebook has failed to stop clandestine actors from using its platform to run coordinated disinformation and hate campaigns." 
(The Guardian 5. desember 2019)


Etter Cambridge Analytica-skandalen lovet Mark Zuckerberg at slikt ikke skal forekomme på Facebook sine sider.
Men hans løfter har ingen verdi.
Facebook forblir et redskap for nedbryting av den samfunnsorden vi kjenner ... i de hender som vil oss vondt.

Det har ingen mening å "snakke med" Zuckerberg om å rydde opp.
Det er hard lut som må til.
Der myndigheter ... og enkeltpersoner .... reagerer med tiltak og .... viser sin avsky.


Skudenehavn  7. desember 2019.

Jan Marton Jensen


PÅ Twitter:
https://twitter.com/janmarton/status/1203466162442588165 

https://twitter.com/janmarton/status/1203466850388127744



Kilde:

5. desember 2019
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/dec/05/monetising-hate-covert-enterprise-co-opts-far-right-facebook-pages-to-churn-out-anti-islamic-posts

 5.desember 2019
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/06/inside-the-hate-factory-how-facebook-fuels-far-right-profit 

5. desember 2019
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/dec/05/ilhan-omar-rashida-tlaib-targeted-far-right-fake-news-operation-facebook

mandag 16. september 2019

Et varslet angrep

Foreløpig kladd:

"I mai oppdaterte sikkerhetstjenesten sin trusselvurdering, og Klassekampen er kjent med at PST da oppjusterte muligheten for et angrep fra høyreekstreme fra «lite sannsynlig» til «mulig».
Først 12. august – to dager etter moskéskytingen – offentliggjorde PST-sjef Hans Sverre Sjøvold denne informasjonen, men regjeringen og politimyndighetene fikk beskjed allerede i mai."


Folkehøyskole-elever varslet


Holocaustsenter undersøkelsen varslet
Ref  Muslimer v. Jøder i den undersøkelsen


ABB + Internet ... varsling fra New Zealand og USA

Mens PST sov ...
Og hadde ikke rutiner eller folk til å følge opp videre utvikling  konkrete varslinger.

Skremmende!




Skudeneshavn   21 august 2019/16. september 2019

Jan Marton Jensen



Kilde:

16. september 2019
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/16/norway-denial-far-right-violence-breivik


21. august 2019
https://www.klassekampen.no/article/20190821/ARTICLE/190829993

søndag 17. mars 2019

Regjeringen må ha handlingsplan både mot antisemittisme og muslimhets !

 New Zealand var en påminnelse om den oppvasken vi har utsatt.
Erna fikk meldingen rett i fanget. Hun må sørge for en handlingplan også mot muslimhets. Her har Norge et spesielt ansvar.



Siden 2016 har regjeringen hatt en egen handlingsplan mot antisemittisme .... etter initiativ fra KrF.
11 konkrete punkter er vedtatt .... og er under  utførelse.

Nå er det blitt helt klart at regjeringen OGSÅ må ha en egen tilsvarende handlingplan mot muslimhets.
Erna fikk så å si en direkte melding om behovet på sin egen Facebook-side.
Meldingen var så klar at hun nok følger dette opp personlig.

Egentlig har vi visst om behovet lenge.
Ja, siden 22. juli 2011.
Men nå i snart 8 år har vi utsatt oppvasken.
Påminnelsen idag fra New Zealand var brutal.

Den siste rapporten fra HL-senteret i Oslo fra 2017 om nordmenns holdninger til jøder og muslimer skulle egentlig ha  vekket oss. Den viser tydelig at fordommene er der ... og MEST mot muslimer.
HL-senteret oppsummerer det slik: (detaljer i lenken nederst).
 .... Motvilje mot jøder: 6,7%  ... og fallende
 .... Motvilje mot muslimer:  27,8%  ... og stigende

DA har vi 4-GANGEN i forskjell.


Siv stilte på Oslo Symposium 2019 på fredag.
Hun åpnet kort om NewZealand-massakren .... og referte underveis til HL-undersøkelsen fra 2017 om nordmenns holdninger til jøder og muslimer. Men hun var KUN opptatt av  antisemittisme.
I lys av hennes innledning var dette påfallende ... men hun kalkulerte nok politisk ... og kjente sitt publikum under Oslo Symposium ... og da så hun bare på ETT øye ... til tross for 4-gangen.
- Slik er politikken for enkelte.

KrF-ledere hadde også sin opptreden på symposiet.
Det mest ekstreme var hvordan Knut Arild Hareide fikk oppleve hvor kilent det er i denne spesielle  forsamlingen å mene noe om Trump.
Vedvarende pipekonsert er sjelden vare når Knut Arild snakker ... men her var det klar melding fra de kristenkonservative: - Ikke kødd med Donald! - Han er en av oss!.

KrF tok som nevnt  initiativet til regjeringens handlingsplan mot antisemittisme.
Men kanskje de ikke føler det er like naturlig å stå opp mot muslimhets.

Og Siv tar nok ikke i en saken med tang engang ... tross 4-gangen ... ref hennes Symposium-valg.
Så da blir det Erna.
Som ikke kan vri seg unna.
Å måtte stryke Facebook-innlegget viser at hun egentlig har tatt første steg.
Som alltid er ... ERKJENNELSE.

Så Erna ... Begynn på den utsatte oppvasken!
Erklær: "Regjeringens handlingsplan mot muslimhat."
 ................

5. desember 2017   Norske holdninger ifølge HL-senteret
https://www.hlsenteret.no/aktuelt/nyheter/2017/resultater-holdningsundersokelse.html


Skudeneshavn  16 mars 2019

Jan Marton Jensen



Publisert på Dagsavisen/NyeMeninger 17. mars 2019
https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyemeninger/regjeringen-m%C3%A5-ha-handlingsplan-b%C3%A5de-mot-antisemittisme-og-muslimhets-1.1449439

Kilde:

5. desember 2017   Norske holdninger ifølge HL-senteret
https://www.hlsenteret.no/aktuelt/nyheter/2017/resultater-holdningsundersokelse.html