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søndag 23. august 2026

Debatt i Aftenposten: "Religion kan legitimere både vold og fred" - Mine kommentarer

 

Jan Marton Jensen
for 55 minutter siden

En krigførende og okkuperende stat sin bruk av religion er et tema som skulle ha større fokus.

Når en stat oppretter religiøse skoler inne på ulovlig okkuperte områder, da er dette en klar POLITISK handling med en politisk HENSIKT.

At finansiering av slike religiøse skoler nå i august 2026 får oppmerksomhet i UK, det er kanskje et tegn i tiden som religiøse ledere skulle ta alvorlig:

"UK launches investigation into donors funding West Bank Yeshivas"

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/artc-uk-launches-investigations-into-donors-funding-west-bank-yeshiv


Jan Marton Jensen

for noen sekunder siden

Forsvarsministeren velger å bli kalt Krigsminister.

Kroppen sier "Deus vult" , korsfarenes kamprop.

Og munnen sier: "Mer testoteron"

Det er som om religion blir en P-forlenger.


Skudeneshavn   23. august 2026

Jan Marton Jensen


Kilde:

23. august 2026

https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikk/i/xrVWXQ/religion-kan-legitimere-baade-vold-og-fred




onsdag 7. januar 2026

Asle Toje - debatt i Aftenposten - Min kommentar

 Det har vært en omfattende Asle Toje - debatt i Aftenposten i desember 2025-januar 2026.


Min kommentar 7. januar 2026:

Jan Marton Jensen

for noen sekunder siden

Når noen vil påvirke samfunnet og politikken ... HVA er DRIVEREN?

Asle Toje om SEG SELV (i Aftenposten 23.11.2020):

"Jeg har alltid vært ærlig om mitt ståsted. Jeg er konservativ. En svært norsk, ganske myk, konservatisme. Jeg tenderer mot «rød» i sosiale spørsmål, liberal i økonomiske henseender og konservativ når det gjelder kultur og politikk."

.........

Kommentar:

Javel.

Men det Toje har har utelatt er at han er aktiv kirkegjenger og styremedlem i Messiaskirken i Oslo.

Så da burde han selverklært seg som .. "kristenkonservativ".

Og vært åpen om hva politikk og religion erfaringsmessig kan medføre.


Skudeneshavn   7. januar 2026 

Jan Marton Jensen

Kilde:

6. januar 2026
https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/debatt/i/j0dGvw/aftenpostens-kommentator-inntar-rollen-som-etablissementets-oppildnede-sverdrager

19. oktober 2025
https://www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/5E953O/konservative-menigheter-vokser-i-norge-hvorfor-det

23.november 2020
https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kronikk/i/41OVwa/europa-er-inne-i-en-demografisk-oekonomisk-og-kulturell-nedgangstid



tirsdag 6. januar 2026

Om Trump og Project 2025, Folkerett, ICJ, Religion og Israel

 Lederartikkel i Aftenposten om Trump og verdens tilstand, se Kilde.


Min kommentar 1:


TRE faktorer mangler i Aftenpostens analyse:

1) Hvor kommer Trumps politiske tankegods fra?

Tips: Heritage Foundation og Project 2025

2) Hvor har ICJ lengst påpekt brudd på Folkeretten?

Tips: Israel siden 2003

3) Religion og Politikk

Hvor farlig er blandingen?

Medias manglende evne og vilje til å gå etter lange trender som påvirker makt-regimer og undergraver Folkerett og Menneskeretter vises i ovenstående lederartikkel.


Min kommentar 2:

Jan Marton Jensen
svarte Jan Marton Jensen 
for noen sekunder siden

Angående pkt 1: Hvor kommer Trumps politiske tankegods fra?

Aftenposten kunne lest og tatt til seg denne artikkelen fra The Guardian i

august 2024:

"Project 2025 started a half-century ago. A Trump win could solidify it forever"

"Trump is trying to complete the right’s master plan. He must be stopped"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/29/trump-project-2025-history

Her var ALT beskrevet av en innsiktsfull kjenner av amerikansk politikk.

Aftenposten kunne lest, tatt til seg og lagt saken i avisens "fagbank".

Men da måtte Aftenposten være opptatt av hvor de mørke høyre-kreftene vil ta verden.



Skudeneshavn   6. januar 2025

Jan Marton Jensen


Kilde:
5. januar 2025
https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/leder/i/GxGE5q/usas-angrep-vil-glede-russland

søndag 12. mars 2023

Om Religion og Politikk i Israel

1)  Artikkel i Haaretz 19. januar 2023

"Jewish Law Above All: Recordings Reveal Far-right Knesset Member’s Plan to Turn Israel Into a Theocracy"

"Deputy Minister Avi Maoz is establishing a government agency that aims to eradicate Israel’s secular identity. Dozens of recordings, speeches and articles by Maoz and his mentor, Rabbi Zvi Thau, reveal their plan to bring Israel ‘closer to redemption’

 Artikkelen er bak betalingsmur.
Men har mange kommentarer som belyser temaet.

2) Artikkel i Jerusalem Post 12. mars 2023

"The settler pogrom in Huwara was anti-Zionist - opinion"

‘Zionism must be freed from its shell’

"One of the key ideologues is Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg who, while recognizing the importance of secular Zionism as having created the state, believes that the time has come for a new Israel to emerge based wholly on Jewish law and without any democratic framework. In order for this to happen, Ginsburg uses the metaphor of a “nutcracker” which will break the outer shell releasing the soft fruit from the shackles of the secular state allowing the formation of a new Torah-based monarchy."



Skudeneshavn   12. mars 2023

Jan Marton Jensen

Kilde:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzchak_Ginsburgh

12. mars 2023
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-734007

19. januar 2023
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-01-19/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/jewish-law-above-all-recordings-reveal-far-right-mks-plan-to-turn-israel-into-theocracy/00000185-cae1-da66-a1bf-fbfb32560000?dicbo=v2-h14rdnj&utm_source=traffic.outbrain.com&utm_medium=referrer&utm_campaign=outbrain_organic

26. desember 2022
https://www.972mag.com/israel-second-army-rebellion-kochavi/

tirsdag 26. april 2022

- "Religion, Not Nationalism or Real Estate, Is to Blame in Israel"

Diskusjon i Haaretz:
Hva driver de israelske settlerne?

Etter et innlegg av Gideon Levy svarer B. Michael:
"Religion, Not Nationalism or Real Estate, Is to Blame in Israel"

Og Michael bruker sterke ord om den religiøse ekstremismen settlerne står for.
Han er ikke opptimistisk for utviklingen.
HELE hans artikkel nedenfor her.

 

Skudeneshavn   26. april 2022

Jan Marton Jensen

 

Kilde:

26. april 2022
B. Michael
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/religion-not-nationalism-or-real-estate-is-to-blame-in-israel-1.10762197?lts=1650997141076 

24. april 2022
G. Levy
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-how-israel-uses-radical-islam-to-justify-the-occupation-1.10758331

 

HELE artikkelen til B. Michael  i Haaretz 26. april 2022

Apr. 26, 2022 1:12 A

Religion, Not Nationalism or Real Estate, Is to Blame in Israel

Settlers march to the wildcat West Bank outpost of Homesh, this month.
Settlers march to the wildcat West Bank outpost of Homesh, this month.Credit: Amir Levy

No, Gideon Levy, it’s not “nationalism or real estate” that stands behind Israeli evil, as you wrote (Haaretz, Sunday). No, it’s really about religion. It’s almost all about religion. And religion is absolutely not “just scenery,” as you wrote in your op-ed. I wish it was. But this is a religious drama, in which faith is the playwright, the director, the producer, the cast and even the cashier selling tickets.

You wanted to make things look worse than they seem by casting messianic settlers as imposters, cynics and pseudo-believers who in real life are greedy realists pursuing real estate. But that’s not who they are: They are authentic religious lunatics. They really want to “remove the abomination” from the land and to purify it. They really do dream of the day when the blood of the sacrifices will be sprinkled on the altar. Likewise, they are true zealots, in the fullest historic and bloody sense of the word. And zealots, history teaches us over and over, are much more dangerous than cynics.

They are also nationalists, but nationalists of a completely religious kind, a nationalism that comes down from heaven and is sanctified by it. They are also after real estate, about stealing land. But it is holy theft, theft committed at the command of God, to glorify him, to realize his promise of the land and to fulfill his commandments.

Judaism, I need not remind you, is the only religion on the planet that believes that God himself registered a piece of property in its name for its exclusive use. Judaism is the only religion on the planet that is also a nation, a kind of hybrid nation-religion. Three times (at least), this nation-religion tried to become a nationality as well, with territory, a government, an army and a temple. Three times it tried, and each time it was a crazed brand of religion that undid the whole enterprise and led it to catastrophe. It wasn’t nationalism or real estate.

The religious ban on any attempt to renew sacrifices on the Temple Mount or to reestablish a Jewish state is not one of those arbitrary or ridiculous laws that religions often conceive of to tame believers, like the laws of shatnez – Jewish law which prohibits clothes containing a mixture of wool and linen. This is a ban that grew out of bitter experience. It was a ban that righteous scholars imposed because they knew full well the beast that lived in the souls of men. They understood what would happen if the Jews tried again.

To their credit, they sought to lock up the Jewish faith in its proper place (as it is with all other religions) – in the life of the individual, the family and the community. There, and only there, far away from nationalism, and politics, it could do no harm and could even do some good. Judaism flourished and suffered, suffered and flourished, for 2,000 years.

Then, alas, we tried again. After the Holocaust, there was every reason to do so. Again, we forgot the lessons of history, again we failed to separate between religion and state, and again we failed to restrict the priests to the temple. Secularism used to be the order of the day – Mapai, Israel's major labor party established in 1930 was about “nationalism and real estate” only, and for a while, religion was kept in a corner, napping.

 But on June 5, 1967, it awoke, stretched its arms and yawned. In April 1968, it celebrated the Passover seder night in Hebron with Moshe Levinger – Hebron settler leader rabbi – and the rest is history. Religion is doing what it is so good at when a state fails to distance itself and falls into its trap: It is then free to bring insanity, evil, racism, religious supremacy, unbridled passion, murder and rot.

Once, not too long ago, there was still a chance to stop it. No more. Many thought we could control it. Many others erred by underestimating its strength. Many more don’t understand even today where it is leading us. Now it’s too late. We can no longer prevent it from completing its mission. It's about religion, not real estate. Religion only, not nationalism. Real estate and nationalism are at the service of faith, not the other way around.

tirsdag 28. desember 2021

- USA taper både demokratiske og religiøse grunnverdier

Kommentar av Jennifer Rubin i Washington Post 28.desember 2021.
Rubin går gjennom de holdningene de religiøse støttespillerne til Trump utviser.
 
"Opinion: Trump idolatry has undermined religious faith"
 
Rubins konklusjon:
"If these trends continue uninterrupted, we will wind up with a country rooted in neither democratic principles nor religious values. That would be a mean, violent and intolerant future few of us would want to experience."

En kraftig advarsel:
- USA taper både demokratiske og religiøse grunnverdier slik utviklingen går.


Skudeneshavn 28. desember 2021

Jan Marton Jensen 

 
Kilde:
28. desember 2021

søndag 19. juli 2020

Mer søkelys må settes på Pompeo og hans kristen-ekstremisme

I en nylig tale har USAs utenriksminister Mike Pompeo nylig konkludert om hva som er overordnede menneskeretter.
Det er ifølge Pompeo:
- Eiendomsrett
- Religion
 
Talen er referert i NY Times 16.juli 2020:
"Pompeo Says Human Rights Policy Must Prioritize Property Rights and Religion"


Slik taler en farlig demagog.
Satt på spissen ... tror man nok ....  så er Pompeo for slaveriet.

Denne mannen er en religions-ekstremist ... en endetids-entusiast .... som har Bibelen oppslått på skrivebordet.
Det skremmende er at han har ytterligere politiske ambisjoner  ... bli president i USA.

Søkelyset på hva Pompeo sier og gjør må økes !
Spesielt må kristen-ledere utfordres ... også i Norge.

Skudeneshavn  19. juli 2020

Jan Marton Jensen

På Twitter:

18. januar 2021
https://twitter.com/janmarton/status/1351233990909423621

 19. juli 2020
https://twitter.com/janmarton/status/1284856728501268481

19. juli
https://twitter.com/janmarton/status/1284943929960476672

Kilde:
16. juli 2020       Pompeos tale om de viktigste menneskerettigheter
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/us/politics/pompeo-human-rights-policy.html

21. mai 2020   Pompeo reiser rundt til  konservative donorer i USA
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/politics/mike-pompeo-inspector-general.html


19. november 2016    Da Trump valgte Pompeo som leder av CIA
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/us/politics/donald-trump-mike-pompeo-cia.html